Al-Taqeyya Refuted.

akhter has made another long, target rich comment in Arch Idiot. Targets are marked with superscripts, my responses follow in an enumerated list linked to the superscripts. Click the superscript and use your Backspace key to return to the comment.

Question: Aren’t there some verses of the Qur’an that condone “killing the infidel”?1

Answer: The Qur’an commands Muslims to stick up for themselves in a defensive battle — i.e. if an enemy army attacks, then Muslims are to fight against that army until they stop their aggression. All of the verses that speak about fighting/war in the Qur’an are in this context.2

There are some specific verses that are very often “snipped” out of context, either by those trying to malign the faith, or by misguided Muslims themselves who wish to justify their aggressive tactics.3

For example, one verse (in its snipped version) reads: “slay them wherever you catch them” (Qur’an 2:191). But who is this referring to? Who are “they” that this verse discusses? The preceding and following verses give the correct context:

“Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And slay them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, slay them. Such is the reward of those who suppress faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevails justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practise oppression” (2:190-193).4

It is clear from the context that these verses are discussing a defensive war, when a Muslim community is attacked without reason, oppressed and prevented from practicing their faith. In these circumstances, permission is given to fight back — but even then Muslims are instructed not to transgress limits, and to cease fighting as soon as the attacker gives up. Even in these circumstances, Muslim are only to fight directly against those who are attacking them, not innocent bystanders or non-combatants.5

Another similar verse can be found in chapter 9, verse 5 — which in its snipped, out of context version could read: “fight and slay the pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war).” Again, the preceding and following verses give the context.

This verse was revealed during a historical period when the small Muslim community had entered into treaties with neighboring tribes (Jewish, Christian, and pagan). Several of the pagan tribes had violated the terms of their treaty, secretly aiding an enemy attack against the Muslim community. The verse directly before this one instructs the Muslims to continue to honor treaties with anyone who has not since betrayed them, because fulfilling agreements is considered a righteous action. Then the verse continues, that those who have violated the terms of the treaty have declared war, so fight them… (as quoted above).

Directly after this permission to fight, the same verse continues, “but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them… for God is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.” The subsequent verses instruct the Muslims to grant asylum to any member of the pagan tribe/army who asks for it, and again reminds that “as long as these stand true to you, stand ye true to them: for God loves the righteous.”

Any verse that is quoted out of context misses the whole point of the message of the Qur’an. Nowhere in the Qur’an can be found support for indiscriminate slaughter, the killing of non-combatants, or murder of innocent persons in ‘payback’ for another people’s alleged crimes.6

The Islamic teachings on this subject can be summed up in the following verses (Qur’an 60:7-8):7

“It may be that God will grant love (and friendship) between you and those whom ye (now) hold as enemies. For God has power (over all things), and God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.

God does not forbid you, with regard to those who fight you not for (your) faith nor drive you out of your homes, from dealing kindly and justly with them: for God loves those who are just.”

  1. Reference to the “kill them” verses, in the second list below, is a distraction tactic designed to divert attention from the generic outcome oriented imperatives to genocidal conquest. These imperatives have neither chronological nor geographic limitations. Their terminal conditions are broad and open ended: termination of resistance, worship for Allah alone, subjugation & extortion. Moe said that Jihad would continue to the last day. Examine Allah’s imperative Jihad. [Emphasis added for clarity.] Why did Ibn Kathir describe these as orders? Why did Moe say that he was ordered to fight?
    1. 8:39. And fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief and polytheism: i.e. worshipping others besides Allâh) and the religion (worship) will all be for Allâh Alone [in the whole of the world ]. But if they cease (worshipping others besides Allâh), then certainly, Allâh is All-Seer of what they do.
      1. The Order to fight to eradicate Shirk and Kufr
    2. 9:29. Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allâh, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allâh and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islâm) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
      1. The Order to fight People of the Scriptures until They give the Jizyah
    3. 9:123. O you who believe! Fight those of the disbelievers who are close to you, and let them find harshness in you, and know that Allâh is with those who are the Al-Muttaqûn (the pious – see V.2:2).
      1. The Order for Jihad against the Disbelievers, the Closest, then the Farthest Areas
    1. 2:191, a specific, defensive/retaliatory reference to Mekkan pagans.
      1. Fighting in the Sacred Months
    2. 4:89, a specific reference to the Mekkan pagans.
    3. 4:91, generic command to kill those who seek security from Islam.
      1. Returning the Salam, With a Better Salam
  2. The assertion that the Jihad verses are entirely defensive is a prime example of al-taqeyya; absolutely false. Islamic Jihad came in three dispensations
    1. prohibited, when Moe had no army
    2. permitted, for defense, when Moe gathered forces at Medina
    3. mandated, for aggression when Moe’s army was large enough to conquer Mekkah. The three ayat quoted above are from the mandatory dispensation.
  3. Notice this phrase ordered to fight in point 1 above. It is bold, blue & underlined because it is a hyperlink; click it to read a hadith in which Moe declares that he was ordered to fiight the people. Each ayat I cite is linked to the Qur’an. Most of those links display a table of ten alternative translations for comparison. These ayat are confirmed by hadith. The quotes of 8:39 & 9:29 are followed by sub points which are linked to topics in Ibn Kathir’s Tafsir. Those tafsir confirm the fact that the quoted ayat are mandates to conquer, not defensive. Another hadith details the orders Moe issued to his generals in the field. Those orders make it plain that they related to aggression, not to defense. Yet another hadith reveals the fact that Jihad is the religion of Islam. While no further confirmation is required, the congruent pattern is completed by Islamic law.
    1. O-9.8: The Objectives of Jihad
      caliph (o-25) makes war upon Jews, Christians, and Zoroastrians
    2. O-9.9
      caliph fights all other peoples until they become Muslim
    3. Al-Shafi’i (God have mercy on him) said: “The least that the imam must do is that he allow no year to pass without having organised a military expedition by himself, or by his raiding parties, according to the Muslims’ interest, so that the jihad will only be stopped in a year for a (reasonable) excuse.” He said: “If he did not undertake the sending of enough troops to fight, those who are absent (must) go out, and consider as an obligation that which God (who is praised) said.”
  4. 2:190 is from the second dispensation, permission to fight in self defense. Examine the Hilali & Khan translation and their footnote.
    1. And fight in the Way of Allâh[1] those who fight you, but transgress not the limits. Truly, Allâh likes not the transgressors. [This Verse is the first one that was revealed in connection with Jihâd, but it was supplemented by another (9:36)].
    2. (V.2:190) Al-Jihâd (holy fighting) in Allâh’s Cause (with full force of numbers and weaponry) is given the utmost importance in Islâm and is one of its pillar (on which it stands). By Jihâd Islâm is established, Allâh’s Word is made superior, (His Word being Lâ ilaha illallâh which means none has the right to be worshipped but Allâh), and His Religion (Islâm) is propagated. By abandoning Jihâd (may Allâh protect us from that) Islâm is destroyed and the Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honour is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihâd is an obligatory duty in Islâm on every Muslim, and he who tries to escape from this duty, or does not in his innermost heart wish to fulfil this duty, dies with one of the qualities of a hypocrite.[…]
      1. By Jihad:
        1. Islâm is established
        2. Allâh’s Word is made superior
        3. His Religion (Islâm) is propagated
      2. Compare that definition to the definition in Sharia.
        1. O9.0 (O: Jihad means to war against non-Muslims, and is etymologically derived from the word mujahada signifying warfare to establish the religion.[…]
    3. 9:36 refers us to the footnote to 2:193
      1. [3] (A) (V.2:193) Narrated Ibn ‘Umar رضي الله عنهما: Allâh’s Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم said, “I have been ordered (by Allâh) to fight against the people till they testify that Lâ ilâha illallâh wa Anna Muhammad-ur-Rasûl Allâh (none has the right to be worshipped but Allâh عز وجل and that Muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم is the Messenger of Allâh), and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give Zakât , so if they perform all that, then they save their lives, and properties from me except for Islâmic laws, and their reckoning (accounts) will be with (done by) Allâh.” (Sahih Al-Bukhâri, Vol.1, Hadîth No.24).
        (B) See (V.8:39) and its footnote.

        [2] (V.8:39)
        A) See the footnote of (V.2:193).
  5. Al-Baqarah permits defensive Jihad. Al-Anfal, Al-Taubah & Al-Fath mandate offensive Jihad. In every case, the fighting is to be limited so as to preserve maximal booty. The widows & orphans of the victims are booty for Muslims; to be raped and sold into slavery. Al-Taubah was 113 in sequence of revelation; it abrogates the more tolerant & less violent Surahs
    1. O9.13

      When a child or a woman is taken captive, they become slaves by the fact of capture, and the woman’s previous marriage is immediately annulled.

  6. The ayat which sanctify and mandate aggressive, offensive Jihad, revealed in Al-Anfal & Al-Taubah and quoted above are imperatives, to be believed and acted upon. The aggressive imperatives are confirmed by hadith, tafsir & Sharia, all of which I have linked to above. Writing about the ayat issued under the first two less aggressive dispensations only distracts from the commands to offensive Jihad; it does nothing to change objective factual reality.
  7. Surah 60 was 91 in sequence of revelation. It is abrogated by Al-Anfal & Al-Taubah.

The Qur’an describes itself as Allah’s final and perfect word. 3:7 tells us that it contains commandments revealed in clear verses.

  • 3:7. It is He Who has sent down to you (Muhammad ) the Book (this Qur’ân). In it are Verses that are entirely clear, they are the foundations of the Book [and those are the Verses of Al-Ahkâm (commandments, etc.), Al-Farâ’id (obligatory duties) and Al-Hudud (legal laws for the punishment of thieves, adulterers, etc.)]; and others not entirely clear. So as for those in whose hearts there is a deviation (from the truth) they follow that which is not entirely clear thereof, seeking Al-Fitnah (polytheism and trials, etc.), and seeking for its hidden meanings, but none knows its hidden meanings save Allâh. And those who are firmly grounded in knowledge say: “We believe in it; the whole of it (clear and unclear Verses) are from our Lord.” And none receive admonition except men of understanding. (Tafsir At-Tabarî).
  • The Mutashabihat and Muhkamat Ayat
    • Allah states that in the Qur’an, there are Ayat that are Muhkamat, entirely clear and plain, and these are the foundations of the Book which are plain for everyone. And there are Ayat in the Qur’an that are Mutashabihat not entirely clear for many, or some people. So those who refer to the Muhkam Ayat to understand the Mutashabih Ayat, will have acquired the correct guidance, and vice versa. This is why Allah said, (They are the foundations of the Book), meaning, they are the basis of the Qur’an, and should be referred to for clarification, when warranted,(And others not entirely clear) as they have several meanings, some that agree with the Muhkam and some that carry other literal indications, although these meaning might not be desired.The Muhkamat are the Ayat that explain the abrogating rulings, the allowed, prohibited, laws, limits, obligations and rulings that should be believed in and implemented. As for the Mutashabihat Ayat, they include the abrogated Ayat, parables, oaths, and what should be believed in, but not implemented. […]

Exactly what the Hell is unclear or ambiguous about this?

Verse Translations
* *
Pickthall Fight against such of those who have been given the Scripture as believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, and forbid not that which Allah hath forbidden by His messenger, and follow not the Religion of Truth, until they pay the tribute readily, being brought low.
Yusuf Ali Fight those who believe not in God nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by God and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
Hilali-Khan Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
Shakir Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection.
Sher Ali Fight those from among the people of the Book, who believe not in ALLAH, nor in the Last Day, nor hold as unlawful what ALLAH and HIS Messenger have declared to be unlawful, nor follow the true religion, until they pay the tax considering it a favour and acknowledge their subjection.
Khalifa You shall fight back against those who do not believe in GOD, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what GOD and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth – among those who received the scripture – until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly.
Arberry Fight those who believe not in God and the Last Day and do not forbid what God and His Messenger have forbidden — such men as practise not the religion of truth, being of those who have been given the Book — until they pay the tribute out of hand and have been humbled.
Palmer Fight those who believe not in God and in the last day, and who forbid not what God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who do not practice the religion of truth from amongst those to whom the Book has been brought, until they pay the tribute by their hands and be as little ones.
Rodwell Make war upon such of those to whom the Scriptures have been given as believe not in God, or in the last day, and who forbid not that which God and His Apostle have forbidden, and who profess not the profession of the truth, until they pay tribute out of hand, and they be humbled.
Sale Fight against them who believe not in God, nor in the last day, and forbid not that which God and his apostle have forbidden, and profess not the true religion, of those unto whom the scriptures have been delivered, until they pay tribute by right of subjection, and they be reduced low.

There can be no doubt that 9:29 is imperative; that it commands aggression against Jews & Christians. Why else would O9.8 of Reliance of the Traveller cite it as the basis for perpetual Jihad against us? Why does Ibn Kathr say that :

  • Allah commanded His Messenger to fight the People of the Scriptures, Jews and Christians, on the ninth year of Hijrah, and he prepared his army to fight the Romans and called the people to Jihad announcing his intent and destination.

Why does Moe say that he was ordered to fight?

  • I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.’ And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah.
    • Our blood is not sacred to Muslims.
    • Our property is not sacred to Muslims.
  • I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,’ and whoever says, ‘None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,’ his life and property will be saved by me except for Islamic law, and his accounts will be with Allah,
    • You save your life from Muslims by becoming Muslim.
    • You save your property from Muslims by becoming Muslim.
  • I am commanded to fight with men till they testify that there is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad is His servant and His Apostle, face our qiblah (direction of prayer), eat what we slaughter, and pray like us. When they do that, their life and property are unlawful for us except what is due to them.
    • Your life is unlawful to Muslims only after you become Muslim.
    • Your property is unlawful to Muslims only after you become Muslim.

Exactly what part of this is not abundantly clear?


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9 Responses to “Al-Taqeyya Refuted.”

  1. akhter Says:

    Question: What does the Qur’an say about terrorism?

    Muslims claim that their faith promotes justice, peace, and freedom. Critics of the faith (and some Muslims themselves) cite verses from the Qur’an that seem to promote violent, armed warfare. How can these different images be reconciled?

    Answer: The entire Qur’an, taken as a complete text, gives a message of hope, faith, and peace to a faith community of one billion people. The overwhelming message is that peace is to be found through faith in God, and justice among fellow human beings.

    Akhter’s comment ain’t his; it was plagiarized from .

    I have left the first two paragraphs in place so that you can verify this fact. I have proved Akhter’s plagiarism and challenged Akhter & Ummah al-Islamiyya to make honest, accurate verifiable responses to an irrefutable set of facts in a new post:
    Akhter Can’t Answer These Challenges!

    The lies plagiarized by Akhter have been refuted on this blog and at Islamophobia: Exposing Malicious Malarkey.

  2. dajjal Says:

    Akhter passed off a New York Times article as his own work. That is plagiarism. I refuted the lies contained in that article point by point, with verifiable references. Akhter can’t respond directly and truthfully. No Muslim has because no Muslim can. Truth is truth and stands on its own merit. Lies fall in the light of truth.

    Akhter, instead of responding to the points I raised, posted another purloined article. Stand witness to al-Taqeyya & kitman; deceit & obfuscation.

  3. Marinkina Says:

    Пора переименовать блог, присвоив название связанное с доменами 🙂 может хватит про них?

    • dajjal Says:

      The name is descriptive because the initial posts exposed and refuted the numerous examples of al-taqeyya & kitman contained in the Ulema’s letter to Pope Benedict XVI. Granted, I keyed in a typo when setting the name, but that error is irreversible.

  4. Ferinannnd Says:

    Спасибо, интересно было прочитать.

  5. steve Says:

    Akhter, you are sadly mistaken. The Koran taken as a whole presents a message of violence to all that are not Muslim, period. The treatement of women is an absolute abomination. There is no way to justify the barbaric practices of Islam. Tell me, to whom is the ‘peace of Islam’ extended to? It damn sure isn’t to anyone who doesn’t profess the Muslim “faith”. “Justice among fellow human beings”!!?? So, Sharia law is the ‘justice’ we can expect? You would do well to examine what you are trying to defend. My prayer is: God, deliver us from those that are wolves in sheep’s clothing … ie … people that believe in Islam.

    • dajjal Says:

      Akhter is a plagiarist who does not write his own stuff. I fear that he is incapable of making a reational response.

  6. ( Says:

    Yes! Finally something about islam way.

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